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2012 Team Preview: Milwaukee Bucks

In Season Previews on October 13, 2012 at 9:00 am

Milwaukee Bucks


  • PG – Brandon Jennings
  • OG – Monta Ellis
  • SF – Luc Richard Mbah a Moute
  • PF – Ersan Ilyasova
  • C  – Samuel Dalembert

This is a weak starting unit. A dysfunctional starting backcourt that lacks defensive integrity and a frontcourt that lacks oomph. I would consider their backcourt below average and for each of their frontcourt players to be borderline top 20 players at their respective positions. So a starting unit that is a bit below average across the board. Read the rest of this entry »


Trade: Monta Ellis for Andrew Bogut, Headline The Deal

In Trade Talk on March 13, 2012 at 9:16 pm reports

The Bucks are trading center Andrew Bogut and veteran guard Stephen Jackson to Golden State in exchange for Monta Ellis, Ekpe Udoh and the expiring contract of Kwame Brown, according to sources.

It’s the first big deal prior to Thursday’s trading deadline.

The 7-foot Bogut is moving on after spending his first six-plus seasons with Milwaukee, after being taken No. 1 overall in the 2005 draft by the Bucks.

Milwaukee gets a shooting guard to pair with point guard Brandon Jennings, giving the team a potentially dynamic starting backcourt. Ellis has two years left on his contract totaling $22 million but he has an opt-out after next season.

The Trade

Golden State trade: Monta Ellis, Ekpe Udoh, Kwame Brown’s expiring carcass
Golden State receive: Andrew Bogut, Stephen Jackson

Milwaukee trade: Andrew Bogut, Stephen Jackson
Milwaukee receive: Monta Ellis, Ekpe Udoh, Kwame Brown’s expiring carcass


First Reaction

Awful trade for Milwaukee. They would have been better off getting an expiring contract than Monta Ellis because they are not setup to succeed with a player like Ellis.

Risky trade for Golden State. I wouldn’t have traded for Bogut given his injury predicament so I don’t really like it but if (a massive “if”) Bogut can get healthy, it’s a major win for them.

Not wild about Stephen Jackson alongside Steph Curry.

Too ball-dominant. I would have preferred to have seen Curry get full control of the reigns (after his development has been slowed down for the past two and a half years by the presence of Monta Ellis) rather than forcing another ball-dominant perimeter on Steph Curry.

But Jacks does give Golden State some much needed physical toughness / defensive presence on the wing which will certainly be a welcome sight. A Curry, Jacks, D.Wright perimeter combo is superior to Curry, Monta, D.Wright.

Waive Stephen Jackson

Best long term decision is to waive Jacks and give Klay Thompson 30-35mpg regardless of how well Jacks plays.

That will allow Golden State to develop their young talent better (both S.Curry and K.Thompson, heck even D.Wright) + lose more games and get a better draft pick. A win-win in terms of their long term prospects.

Trade Monta On

I like this trade for Milwaukee if they flip Monta for some expiring contracts and a quality draft pick(s).

John Hammond

I don’t think the Bucks GM John Hammond is the type of GM who’ll go for a long term rebuilding process. He is from the Joe Dumars school of thought that you always try to win as much possible and improve that way.

So, I would be surprised if Monta was brought in to be moved on again for additional assets. I think this is part of their long term thinking.

Trade Brandon Jennings

More likely to be moved than Monta Ellis in my opinion. Not sure what they could get for him. There was a rumour earlier in the week that the Bucks received a very good offer for Jennings but turned it down. Maybe there is something to be done there.

That would leave Milwaukee starting Shaun Livingston and Monta Ellis in the backcourt together.

  • Livingston has the size and defensive ability to cover two guards allowing Monta to defend the point which allows Milwaukee to maintain it’s defensive integrity in the backcourt
  • Plus, Livingston is a capable floor general who’ll allow Monta to play the two spot offensively and concentrate on his scoring.
  • However, Livingston would be one of the weaker starting guards in the league so while he protects Monta Ellis’ weaknesses, it’s still not an overly attractive situation. Milwaukee need to add a lot more talent in it’s frontcourt to justify bringing in and choosing to build around Monta Ellis long term.

Jennings and Monta vs Steph Curry and Monta

Brandon Jennings and Monta is an even worse combination because:

  • Jennings is a far more ball-dominant guard than Steph Curry is
  • Steph Curry can play both on and off the ball while Jennings’ play decreases whenever he spends less time on the ball
  • Steph Curry is a much better individual talent than Brandon Jennings currently is in large part due to the two previous points. Curry can play alongside high level talent who need large amounts of touches and shot attempts better than Jennings can while still maintaining much of his own offensive and overall impact on the game (unlike Jennings – at least, at this point in time in Jennings career).

Trading Stephen Jackson

The Bucks insistence on moving Stephen Jackson in a trade along with Andrew Bogut really limited their options and return for Bogut. I wonder what they could have gotten if they had of just traded Bogut by himself or even with additional assets.

If they had of just offered Jackson and buyout and lived with him holding up some of their cap flexibility for another 15 months. Was the upside of that cap flexibility really worth losing out on those alternative / superior trade packages?

Well, we don’t know what else was or would have been offered for Bogut without Jackson involved but I expect that was the case. That Milwaukee’s single minded approach on getting rid of Jackson and trading him along with Bogut limited their return.

David Lee and Bogut

I think Andrew Bogut’s presence is going to hurt David Lee’s offensive output.

Less space to work with when playing alongside Bogut + more playing time for David Lee at power forward instead of at center where he has a larger offensive advantage.

Best Bucks Lineup

C  – Gooden, Udoh, Sanders
PF – Ilyasova, Mbah a Moute, Leuer
SF – Harris, Dunleavy
SG – Delfino, Monta
PG – Jennings, Livingston, Udrih

Bogut, Injured Again, Out For Season?

In General NBA on January 28, 2012 at 12:41 pm has the press release

Milwaukee Bucks General Manager John Hammond announced the following update on the injury to Andrew Bogut (7-0, 260):

“This morning in Milwaukee, Andrew had additional diagnostic tests performed on his left ankle.  The results of the testing confirmed a left ankle fracture which will keep Bogut sidelined for a period of 8-to-12 weeks.” Read the rest of this entry »

Bucks Sign Mike Dunleavy

In Free Agency on December 8, 2011 at 11:50 pm reports

League sources indicated Thursday the Bucks will sign guard-forward Mike Dunleavy Jr. when contracts can officially be offered to free agents Friday.

The deal is expected to be for two years and in the $7.5 million range, meaning the Bucks are using some of their mid-level exception on the veteran, who is an unrestricted free agent. Read the rest of this entry »

Boston Trade For Dooling

In Trade Talk on December 8, 2011 at 11:31 pm

The Boston Globe reports

The Celtics are going to announce the acquisition of veteran point guard Keyon Dooling from the Milwaukee Bucks on Friday, the first day of training camp and trades can become official, according to a league source.

The deal is expected to include a second-round draft pick headed to Milwaukee

Boston acquired Dooling with their trade exception which I believe came from the Marquis Daniels salary dump to Sacramento midway through last season. Read the rest of this entry »

Bogut To Be Limited By Injury?

In General NBA on October 11, 2010 at 9:40 am

The Milwaukee Journal Sentinel reports

After sitting out the Milwaukee Bucks’ first three exhibition games with soreness and swelling in his surgically repaired right hand, center Andrew Bogut is dealing with his physical situation.

“I might not be 100% the whole year,” said Bogut.

“I’m just trying to be a little careful before the real season starts,” he said. “I’d like to start practicing probably this week, but I think it’ll probably be another . . . they said it would be about seven to 10 days from when it first happened.

“The elbow, finger, everything . . . I won’t be 100%, so I’ll have to play through the pain through the season. Even once it gets better, I’m still going to be 90% for the year or 85%.

“I don’t have my mobility and flexibility like I should, but I just have to adjust to it.” Read the rest of this entry »

Redd Out Til February

In General NBA on July 11, 2010 at 6:53 am

ESPN reports

Michael Redd is being cautious in his recovery from a second major knee operation and may not return until February 2011, the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel reported Saturday.

According to the report, Redd is worried that rushing his return could lead to the same result as last season.

Redd blew out his left knee 47 games into the 2008-09 season and rehabbed in time to open 2009-10 with the Bucks. Read the rest of this entry »

Mikwaukee Close To Signing Salmons

In Free Agency on July 2, 2010 at 3:30 am

NBAFanhouse reports

Milwaukee is about to finalize a deal Thursday to re-sign guard John Salmons.

A source told FanHouse the deal is done except for a few minor points. Milwaukee general manager John Hammond had told FanHouse very early Thursday morning he had “guarded” optimism that Salmons would re-sign.

The source said the deal, which Salmons can’t sign until July 8, will be for five years for $39 million, with bonuses that could push it to $44 million. The fifth year, though, will be partially guaranteed, with that being one of the things still being worked out. Read the rest of this entry »

Bucks Add Gooden

In Free Agency on July 2, 2010 at 3:11 am

Yahoo Sports reports

Drew Gooden has reached agreement on a five-year, $32 million contract with the Milwaukee Bucks, league sources told Yahoo! Sports.

Gooden has played for eight teams in eight seasons, and hopes to find some stability with the fast-rising Bucks.

Bucks general manager John Hammond and agent Dan Fegan struck quickly on Thursday and cut a deal to help solidify Milwaukee’s frontline. Read the rest of this entry »

Bucks Get CDR

In Draft, Trade Talk on June 22, 2010 at 11:46 pm

Adrian Wojnarowski reports via twitter (link one + link two)

Milwaukee will give Nets the 44th pick in Draft for Chris Douglas-Roberts, league source tells Y!

Bucks won’t give Nets 44th or 47th picks in Douglas-Roberts deal, team source says. Teams working on a future draft consideration.

Excellent pickup by the Milwaukee Bucks. Chris Douglas Roberts will look quite good in their offense and is great value for a second round pick. Read the rest of this entry »