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James Harden Traded To Houston

In Trade Talk on October 27, 2012 at 11:02 pm

Trade Details

Houston Rockets receive: James Harden, Cole Aldrich, Daequan Cook, Lazar Hayward

Oklahoma City receive: Kevin Martin, 2013 Raptors first rounder, Jeremy Lamb, 2013 Mavericks first rounder, 2013 Bobcats second rounder

Trade Reaction

Houston Rockets

Excellent deal for Houston. They traded some scraps, two mid-first round picks and a mid-lottery pick for the best young two guard in the NBA who is already one of the top five SGs in the league (top 25 player in the league with potential for more). Read the rest of this entry »


Boston Gets Courtney Lee in Sign-and-Trade

In Free Agency, Trade Talk on July 20, 2012 at 10:46 pm

ESPN reports

The Boston Celtics acquired free-agent shooting guard Courtney Lee in a sign-and-trade deal with the Houston Rockets that also included the Portland Trail Blazers, the Celtics announced Friday.

The Celtics are giving Lee a fully guaranteed four-year contract — reported by Yahoo! Sports to be worth $21.5 million — and trading away JaJuan Johnson, E’Twaun Moore, Sean Williams and a second-round pick to Houston. They also will ship Sasha Pavlovic, two second-round picks and cash considerations to Portland. The Blazers were added to the mix Thursday night in order to facilitate the deal and give Lee a higher salary.

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Knicks Re-Acquire Raymond Felton, Kurt Thomas

In Free Agency, Trade Talk on July 15, 2012 at 10:24 am

ESPN reports

The New York Knicks have agreed to a sign-and-trade deal with the Portland Trail Blazers that will bring point guard Raymond Felton and center Kurt Thomas to New York in exchange for center Dan Gadzuric and forward Jared Jeffries, league sources confirmed Saturday night.

The deal, for three years and $10 million according to USA Today, raises the possibility the Knicks will not match the offer sheet Jeremy Lin signed with the Houston Rockets earlier this week. They could pass after signing Jason Kidd and acquiring Felton. Read the rest of this entry »

Trade: Ben Gordon for Corey Maggette

In Trade Talk on June 27, 2012 at 1:59 am

ESPN reports

The Detroit Pistons have agreed to trade Ben Gordon and a 2013 protected first-round draft pick to the Charlotte Bobcats for swingman Corey Maggette.

Sources told the first-round pick going to Charlotte is lottery-protected in 2013, top-eight protected in 2014, top-one protected in 2015 and unprotected in 2016.

The deal provides significant long-term savings for the Pistons. Maggette is in the last year of his contract that pays him $10.9 million during the 2012-13 season.

Gordon has two years, $25.6 million left on his contract, giving the Pistons a long-term savings of $14 million. Read the rest of this entry »

Trade: Emeka Okafor for Rashard Lewis

In Trade Talk on June 26, 2012 at 11:32 pm

ESPN writes

The New Orleans Hornets traded forward Trevor Ariza and center Emeka Okafor to the Washington Wizards on Wednesday for forward Rashard Lewis and a second-round draft pick.

“We are rebuilding our team and this is one step in our new direction,” Hornets general manager Dell Demps said. “This trade will provide an opportunity for our young players to develop and create flexibility to add to our core group moving forward.”

Grunfeld said the deal won’t have any effect on the team’s draft plans.

“We felt like we needed to add some veterans to the roster, and we were able to do that with this move. … We get players that are good solid players and fill two needs for us,” he said. “Instead of going into free agency to try to fill our needs, we did it through a trade.”

The second round pick is the #46 pick. Read the rest of this entry »

Lakers Eliminated from 2012 Playoffs

In 2012 NBA Playoffs, General NBA, Trade Talk on May 22, 2012 at 6:37 pm

I saw a few articles and comments saying that this signals the end of an era for the LA Lakers. That is time for them to rebuild. After back-to-back exits in the second round where they have been thoroughly outplayed … that their squad with Kobe Bryant as a leading figure is finished.

I disagree. I don’t think the Lakers are finished.

They can still be a Championship caliber team for a few more years (while Kobe is still a high end player). They just need to make some changes to their roster.

  • Starting with the Pau Gasol + Andrew Bynum problem. These two have struggled to operate at full capacity while playing together every year that they have been together in LA. It’s not working. They want the same spots on the floor offensively and one’s involvement offensively keeps coming at the expense of the other. LA needs to make a change and re-balance it’s squad.
  • They need to continue addressing their lack of quickness and athleticism on the perimeter. They made a nice start to that by acquiring Ramon Sessions. They need to re-sign him this summer. Read the rest of this entry »

Trade Deadline Deals

In Trade Talk on March 15, 2012 at 11:42 am

#1 – Memphis sends Sam Young to Philadelphia for the draft rights to Ricky Sanchez

#2 – Toronto sends Leandro Barbosa to Indiana for a trade exception

#3 – LA Lakers acquire Ramon Sessions and Christian Eyenga in exchange for Luke Walton, Jason Kapono, the Lakers 2012 first round pick plus the right to switch Miami’s 2013 (via LeBron sign and trade) first rounder with the Lakers should they choose to do so.

#4 – In the biggest deal yet of today’s trade deadline, the Net Jersey Nets have trade a protected (top three) first round pick (along with the cap makeweight of Memo Okur and Shawne Williams) to the Portland Trailblazers and have gotten Gerald Wallace in return.

#5 – San Antonio trades Richard Jefferson and their 2012 first rounder to Golden State for Stephen Jackson.

#6 – The Rockets have acquired Marcus Camby in exchange for Hasheem Thabee, Jonny Flynn and a second round pick.

#7 – The Lakers complete another trade. This time with the Rockets that will see LA send Derek Fisher and a first (Mavs 2012 pick) to Houston for Jordan Hill.

#8 – Hold on, we have a big one here, — Denver sends Nene to Washington, JaVale McGee and Ronny Turiaf heads to Denver, Nick Young goes to the LA Clippers with the Clips sending Brian Cook and a second rounder (Hornets 2012 second rounder owned by LAC, currently projected at #33 pick in the draft so a high second rounder) back to Washington.

#9 – Atlanta Hawks sell lesser of their two second round picks in this summer’s draft to the Golden State Warriors for cash considerations. A luxury tax motivated move.


#1 – Sam Young

Excellent deal for Philadelphia. Sam Young is a solid rotation player as a big two guard. Strong physical profile, a solid defender/rebounder with a decent offensive player. A nice contrast to what Phily has with Jodie Meeks as their other backup two guard.

As for Memphis, this was strictly a cost-cutting move. By moving Sam Young they have crept below the luxury tax and saved around $5 million. Not a bad bit of business for a player who doesn’t figure into their rotation. That said, I would have preferred to have seen them move a less valuable piece than Sam Young because I think S.Young is a legitimate rotation guy.

#2 – Leandro Barbosa

Very good addition for Indiana. Barbosa is a major upgrade over AJ Price and strengthens their bench’s backcourt considerably. That said, there is a lot of overlap in skill-sets between Barbosa and George Hill so there is a fair bit of diminishing returns there. So we won’t see Barbosa at his full value but even in a lesser role he is still a major improvement over AJ Price. Nice addition.

As for the Raptors, presumably this tees them up (gets them far enough below the salary cap) to make major contract offer to Wilson Chandler.

#3 – Ramon Sessions

Does Sessions start for LA?

I prefer Sessions in a backup PG role on that team. Let Blake start (is he still there? I think he is) and be a floor spacer and facilitator alongside Kobe, Pau and Bynum … then bring in Sessions for dribble penetration, playmaking and pick and roll play. Maybe something like 18-23mpg for Blake and 25-30mpg for Sessions.

Sessions is a nice upgrade to the Lakers depth and Eyenga is a solid prospect for the end of their bench. An elite athlete who can defend and rebound his position. The offensive side of the floor is still a mystery to him though.

The Cavaliers did well here. They were unable to get an expiring + first offer elsewhere but valued the first round pick over and expiring deal and got that from LA. They also got the right to swap picks (their Miami pick) with LA in 2013. A nice haul for a backup PG who had no future with the club past this season. A bit disappointed they gave up Eyenga but he was always unlikely to crack Byron Scott’s system anyway.

#4 – Gerald Wallace

Dumb ass trade for the Nets. That lottery pick would have been a lot more valuable for their future than a 30 year old SF whose game heavily relies on his athleticism. Wallace isn’t enough of an upgrade to convince Deron Williams to stay so all New Jersey has done here is shoot themselves in the foot.

Meanwhile, Portland, they have gotten an absolutely fantastic return for player who didn’t fit into their long term plans. That pick will be a valuable asset in rebuilding the roster around Aldridge and Batum.

#5 – RJ for Jacks

Nice piece of business for San Antonio because they got out of that extra year in RJ’s contract. I am a bit concerned about Jack’s ability to fit in and take less shot attempts in San Antonio though. So while it helps San An’s long term flexibility, it may slightly hurt them in the immediate sense.

As for Golden State, they should never have made this financial commitment to Richard Jefferson. Bad trade.

Edit: Sorry, I didn’t notice this at first but San Antonio included their 2012 first rounder too. Not sure if that changes anything though. Need to ponder that some more. Hefty price to pay (that third season of Richard Jefferson) for a late first rounder in a draft that looks dodgy once you start getting into the late teens.

#6 – Marcus Camby

This move pretty much guarantees the Rockets a playoff spot this season.

PG – Lowry, Dragic
SG – Lee, Martin
SF – Parsons, Budinger
PF – Scola, Patterson
C  – Dalembert, Camby

Very solid 10 man roster. Two deep at every position. A couple of good players beyond that too.

I was disappointed by Houston’s lack of interest in developing Thabeet (force-feeding him minutes). They were going to let him leave in the summer, along with Flynn, anyway so this is a coup for them. They added a quality rotation worthy center in exchange for two third string guys who offered little in the immediate sense or long term future.

As for the Blazers, I am looking forward to Flynn getting another shot. I think he has more to show than we’ve seen so far. Not that I rate him particularly high but I think he can become a decent backup PG in the NBA. Thabeet is more of an enigma and I do not expect Portland to develop him. Not much of a return for a quality center but given Camby’s age, one cannot reasonably expect any more than what they got. They did fine here.

#7 – Fisher and Jordan Hill

Seriously, a first round pick for Jordan Hill?

I don’t think he was worth the expenditure. The Lakers did get out of Fisher’s contract though and that added wiggle room financially will allow LA to spend money on a more productive player next season. So it’s not all bad for LA.

Great return for Houston.

#8 – Three team deal: Nene, McGee and Nick Young headline the transaction

I like this deal for Denver. Nene should never have been given that contract in the summer and getting out from underneath that deal is a very good move on their part. To acquire a prospect of JaVale McGee’s potential in addition to that cap flexibility is an excellent bit of business.

Dislike it for Washington for the reasons above + because it improves them in the immediate sense which will only hurt their draft picks this season and in the near future which will only detract from their rebuilding process further. Lack of patience.

The Clippers did a tidy bit of business here. Love the move. Nick Young is a bargain at a second round pick. He’ll be a big help for that team.

2012 Trade Deadline Rumours

In Trade Talk on March 14, 2012 at 7:52 pm

List of the main rumours with links … analysis on some of the bigger rumours down below if you scroll down.

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Trade: Monta Ellis for Andrew Bogut, Headline The Deal

In Trade Talk on March 13, 2012 at 9:16 pm reports

The Bucks are trading center Andrew Bogut and veteran guard Stephen Jackson to Golden State in exchange for Monta Ellis, Ekpe Udoh and the expiring contract of Kwame Brown, according to sources.

It’s the first big deal prior to Thursday’s trading deadline.

The 7-foot Bogut is moving on after spending his first six-plus seasons with Milwaukee, after being taken No. 1 overall in the 2005 draft by the Bucks.

Milwaukee gets a shooting guard to pair with point guard Brandon Jennings, giving the team a potentially dynamic starting backcourt. Ellis has two years left on his contract totaling $22 million but he has an opt-out after next season.

The Trade

Golden State trade: Monta Ellis, Ekpe Udoh, Kwame Brown’s expiring carcass
Golden State receive: Andrew Bogut, Stephen Jackson

Milwaukee trade: Andrew Bogut, Stephen Jackson
Milwaukee receive: Monta Ellis, Ekpe Udoh, Kwame Brown’s expiring carcass


First Reaction

Awful trade for Milwaukee. They would have been better off getting an expiring contract than Monta Ellis because they are not setup to succeed with a player like Ellis.

Risky trade for Golden State. I wouldn’t have traded for Bogut given his injury predicament so I don’t really like it but if (a massive “if”) Bogut can get healthy, it’s a major win for them.

Not wild about Stephen Jackson alongside Steph Curry.

Too ball-dominant. I would have preferred to have seen Curry get full control of the reigns (after his development has been slowed down for the past two and a half years by the presence of Monta Ellis) rather than forcing another ball-dominant perimeter on Steph Curry.

But Jacks does give Golden State some much needed physical toughness / defensive presence on the wing which will certainly be a welcome sight. A Curry, Jacks, D.Wright perimeter combo is superior to Curry, Monta, D.Wright.

Waive Stephen Jackson

Best long term decision is to waive Jacks and give Klay Thompson 30-35mpg regardless of how well Jacks plays.

That will allow Golden State to develop their young talent better (both S.Curry and K.Thompson, heck even D.Wright) + lose more games and get a better draft pick. A win-win in terms of their long term prospects.

Trade Monta On

I like this trade for Milwaukee if they flip Monta for some expiring contracts and a quality draft pick(s).

John Hammond

I don’t think the Bucks GM John Hammond is the type of GM who’ll go for a long term rebuilding process. He is from the Joe Dumars school of thought that you always try to win as much possible and improve that way.

So, I would be surprised if Monta was brought in to be moved on again for additional assets. I think this is part of their long term thinking.

Trade Brandon Jennings

More likely to be moved than Monta Ellis in my opinion. Not sure what they could get for him. There was a rumour earlier in the week that the Bucks received a very good offer for Jennings but turned it down. Maybe there is something to be done there.

That would leave Milwaukee starting Shaun Livingston and Monta Ellis in the backcourt together.

  • Livingston has the size and defensive ability to cover two guards allowing Monta to defend the point which allows Milwaukee to maintain it’s defensive integrity in the backcourt
  • Plus, Livingston is a capable floor general who’ll allow Monta to play the two spot offensively and concentrate on his scoring.
  • However, Livingston would be one of the weaker starting guards in the league so while he protects Monta Ellis’ weaknesses, it’s still not an overly attractive situation. Milwaukee need to add a lot more talent in it’s frontcourt to justify bringing in and choosing to build around Monta Ellis long term.

Jennings and Monta vs Steph Curry and Monta

Brandon Jennings and Monta is an even worse combination because:

  • Jennings is a far more ball-dominant guard than Steph Curry is
  • Steph Curry can play both on and off the ball while Jennings’ play decreases whenever he spends less time on the ball
  • Steph Curry is a much better individual talent than Brandon Jennings currently is in large part due to the two previous points. Curry can play alongside high level talent who need large amounts of touches and shot attempts better than Jennings can while still maintaining much of his own offensive and overall impact on the game (unlike Jennings – at least, at this point in time in Jennings career).

Trading Stephen Jackson

The Bucks insistence on moving Stephen Jackson in a trade along with Andrew Bogut really limited their options and return for Bogut. I wonder what they could have gotten if they had of just traded Bogut by himself or even with additional assets.

If they had of just offered Jackson and buyout and lived with him holding up some of their cap flexibility for another 15 months. Was the upside of that cap flexibility really worth losing out on those alternative / superior trade packages?

Well, we don’t know what else was or would have been offered for Bogut without Jackson involved but I expect that was the case. That Milwaukee’s single minded approach on getting rid of Jackson and trading him along with Bogut limited their return.

David Lee and Bogut

I think Andrew Bogut’s presence is going to hurt David Lee’s offensive output.

Less space to work with when playing alongside Bogut + more playing time for David Lee at power forward instead of at center where he has a larger offensive advantage.

Best Bucks Lineup

C  – Gooden, Udoh, Sanders
PF – Ilyasova, Mbah a Moute, Leuer
SF – Harris, Dunleavy
SG – Delfino, Monta
PG – Jennings, Livingston, Udrih

Trade Ideas: Steve Nash

In Trade Talk on March 1, 2012 at 6:56 am

If Phoenix were to trade Steve Nash, what type of trade package could they expect to net in return?

Trade Ideas

Presumably only a title contender or near title contender would pursue him so:

Oklahoma, the LA Clippers and Chicago have young franchise player PGs already in place. San Antonio have an All-Star in Tony Parker. Phily have a really good starting PG Jrue Holiday who is only scratching the surface of what he can be in this league + are unlikely to make that type of long term prospect for short term gain type of trade given the rest of their roster. Better for them to think long term. So rule those teams out.

Atlanta — Teague and Hinrich
Dallas — Jason Terry or Lamar Odom and Roddy Beaubois and another asset (Dom Jones or a 1st)
Indiana — Darren Collison
LA Lakers — Have to give a bad contract to Phoenix. Can offer several first round picks + have trade exception to take worse contracts from Suns.
Memphis — Mike Conley and change
New York — Jeremy Lin and filler
Portland — Raymond Felton or Jamal Crawford and change

There is one whopper of a trade that has some sense to it and that is with Boston. A Steve Nash for Rajon Rondo swap wouldn’t help Boston by itself but if the deal was widened to include Marcin Gortat and Jermaine O’Neal and perhaps even a Jared Dudley for filler (say Keyon Dooling) … that could make things tempting for the Celtics.

Orlando would love to get involved but they have no talent to offer up in exchange.

Boston’s New Lineup

PG – Steve Nash, Avery Bradley, E’Twaun Moore
SG – Mickael Pietrus, Ray Allen
SF – Paul Pierce, (Jared Dudley or Pietrus)
PF – Kevin Garnett, Brandon Bass, Chris Wilcox
C  – Marcin Gortat, (Kevin Garnett) , Greg Stiemsma

That lineup could give Boston a legitimate shot at riding off into the sunset with one last run at a title.

It’d hurt their rebuilding efforts; losing Rondo. But it wouldn’t load them with any bad long term deals. They would have a lot of flexibility going forward.

Phoenix’s Best Modus Operandi

As we can see, with the exception of Rajon Rondo, Phoenix is receiving very few offers that include top tier talent and/or blue chip prospects. Heck, they are not likely to get many quality draft picks either.

So, the Suns have little to gain, talent wise, from moving Steve Nash.

However, there is another area where they could create added value for their franchise and that is by moving bad contracts:

(1) Josh Childress — four years and about $28 million left on his deal
(2) Channing Frye — four years $25 million
(3) Hakim Warrick — three years $12 million

Phoenix would be best off using Nash as the carrot to rid themselves of those bad deals. To send Nash to a team that isn’t offering the best talent package but the one offering the most expiring deals and cap flexibility going forward.

They should be looking to move a minimum of two of those contracts (Childress being one, Frye preferably the second) but possibly all three depending on the trade package.

Phoenix was a prime free agent destination in years past and they can get back there again in the future.

However, they need more cap flexibility to do so. To have enough space to sign multiple stars in order to convince them they can actually win and enjoy their basketball there. Not be stuck with the likes of Frye, Warrick and Childress … carrying a .500 team on their backs.

In truth, trading Steven Nash to someone like Orlando, who will be willing to eat whatever bad contracts they have to suffer through to get Nash, could be Phoenix’ best choice to setup their rebuilding process.


To summarize, given the lack of talent likely to be offered for Nash, Phoenix’ best long term strategy would be to choose cap flexibility over the solid but unexceptional talent on offer.

Their best opportunity to add high quality talent is with Boston but they will have to be willing to part with Gortat (and maybe Dudley or a first) to make that happen.