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Amare To NY

In Free Agency on July 1, 2010 at 11:30 pm

Update: Done deal – scroll down

Tommy Dee reports (of www.theknicksblog.com fame)

Trying to confirm but source says Amare to NY is “almost” done and they are “working out numbers”…half of the pick and roll set?

Benjamin Hochman reports (Denver Post)

We have sources confirming that Amare has accepted a deal with the NY Knicks

Sounds like it’s going to go through.

I wasn’t expecting Amare to move on day one. He appeared to be more of a fall-back option if Bosh fell through and in many cases Carlos Boozer.

I suppose that is why the Knicks managed to get him to sign so early, because they made him feel like he was their top target.

Update

Paul Coro adds (link one and link two and link three)

Amar’e Stoudemire has received his best offer so far from another team but still talking with the Suns.

On the Stoudemire front, I don’t know which team made the better offer yet but those closer to the situation think it’s New York.

The possiblity of Stoudemire returning to the Suns has been downgraded to “highly unlikely” by one source in the know.

This seems to be pointing in the same direction as the first couple of reports.

Second Update

Adrian Wojnarowski reports

Knicks haven’t yet made an offer to Amar’e, sources say. Sides will talk over weekend.

Wojnarowski generally has the best information/sources of any sports journalist throughout the league. So I would tend to believe his report more than the rest.

Third Update

Yahoo Sports writes

Amar’e Stoudemire and the New York Knicks are making progress in talks on a five-year, $100 million max contract and a deal could be completed as soon as Friday, league sources told Y! Sports.

The framework of the deal, which would give Stoudemire a $17.2 million starting salary next season, is in place and the two sides are expected to talk again soon, sources said. Stoudemire is expected to travel to New York on Saturday.

The Knicks and Stoudemire aren’t each other’s first choices, but Stoudemire wanted a fifth year guaranteed and the Knicks needed to have something to show for years of losing and working to clear cap space.

They also have details on the Suns offer

The Suns made a last-ditch proposal to Stoudemire, offering him a five-year contract that guaranteed him $71 million, sources said. The first three seasons were fully guaranteed. The fourth season contained a 50 percent guarantee that could become fully guaranteed based on the number of minutes Stoudemire played in the first three seasons. The fifth season of the contract also could become guaranteed based on a minutes incentive.

The Suns put in the incentives because of concerns over Stoudemire’s past knee and eye injuries. Insurance won’t cover Stoudemire’s salary if he can’t play because of any additional problems to either of his knees or his right eye.

I am not wild about this signing for New York.

It all depends on whether it proves to be enough to convince LeBron James or Dwyane Wade to join.

  • If it does, then great, it’s a major success.
  • If it doesn’t, then I think the Knicks would have been better off re-signing David Lee at a cheaper price tag.

Update: Amare has now officially accepted the offer – link

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  1. If/when the Stoudemire domino falls first … the ripple effect will be astounding, i.e. you should expect to see Boozer and then Bosh to be swept very quickly.

    IMO, what happens with Stoudemire and then Boozer will be key elements of this summer’s free agency signing period.

    [unlike others who think that where LeBron goes is all-important, IMO, it’s more crucial to an organization’s notion of team-building to see which 2nd-tier UFA they go after BEFORE pursuing a Big Fish]

    i.e. What the history of the NBA has shown is that 1 superstar player who is forced to work on his own has very little chance of ever being able to contend for a league championship. Conversely, if a team has a number of 2nd tier players on its roster, eventually, it can add a bigger fish, either, via the Draft or a trade or free agency, since it is then a more attractive situation for that star player to come to in the first place. Whichever of New Jersey, New York, Miami or Chicago [etc.] does not land any solid 2nd-tier free agents just might get left out in the cold without anything of substance to show for their efforts, except the re-signing of their lone superstar, if he even decides to re-up with them after the feeding frenzy has died down. My advice? Keep your eyes on Stoudemire and Boozer.

  2. Very well written article and a great blog you got over here! I think it is foolish for the Knicks to take on Amare if they want to win an NBA championship. He is obviously very talented but I think that there are a lot of flaws in his game that won’t allow his team to translate to an NBA championship. Also, you think you could check out my blog cuz I really want to know what you think. http://chrisross91.wordpress.com/2010/07/02/take-a-stupid-pill-sign-amare/

  3. Hey Chris Ross, welcome to the site!

    Agreed — Amare is far from an ideal signing.

    Amare is a defensive liability and a liability on the backboards. He also hasn’t played as well in pressure moments since coming back from the injuries + has failed to become a leader + too self-absorbed in his own game, and in his own offense to define himself.

    Hey Khandor,

    I was thinking Chris Bosh was the key guy. He is everyone’s first choice (as supporting star). Once he goes off the board, I think teams will move very quickly on Amare and Boozer. With Chicago, New Jersey and possibly Miami (although they are a question mark) making Boozer their new first choice big man and New York making Amare their first choice (more suited to uptempo game).

    I also thought Bosh would effect Rudy Gay and Joe Johnson significantly too but both of those guys appear to be off the board at this stage.

    Chris Bosh is the guy many teams are waiting on. Once he signs somewhere, I think everybody will make offers quickly and move to their first choice backup plans.

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