ESPN Insider reports
The Suns are still in active trade talks for Amare, with discussions initiated by both the Suns and other teams. The latest is that the Suns have talked to the Philadelphia 76ers about a swap of Stoudemire plus filler for Andre Iguodala and Samuel Dalembert.
While there are a lot of deals the Suns wouldn’t do, this is one in which they’re interested. It’s the Sixers that are holding up the process, I’m told. While nothing’s imminent, if Philadelphia GM Ed Stefanski sees an opportunity to unload Dalembert and thinks Stoudemire is the best player he can get, things could get hot quickly.
Nash + J.Richardson + Iguodala + Frye + Dalembert
Grant Hill + Barbosa + Dragic + Dudley + Amundson + R.Lopez
That is an interesting team.
Andre Igoudala and Sam Dalembert would bring an elite stopper on the wings and a very talented interior defender into the mix. As well as two talented rebounds.
I think Channing Frye and Jason Richardson would contribute more defensively + on the glass when playing alongside more defensive minded teammates. I’ve been disappointed all season long in Frye’s defensive contributions, I was expecting more from him.
I think the Suns are better off (1) retaining Amare Stoudemire (2) blowing their team up and undergoing a full rebuilding process. I think both of those choices offer a more promising future.
This trade creates a better on court balance but Phoenix remains in the same tier in the West (third tier team with no hopes of a title) and limits their flexibility + ability to improve in the future. It does however maintain a good basketball team for the remainder of Nash’s years and the improved offensive/defensive balance could help the Suns in future acquisitions.
Short term = Lateral move that creates better offense/defense balance
Long term = Longer road to building a contender
- Thaddeus Young — power forward of the future
- Marreese Speights — power forward of the future
- Elton Brand — $51 million for the next four years not including this season + the team’s sixth man
The Sixers already have enough power forwards and neither Young nor Speights are talented enough defensively to make up for Stoudemire’s defensive short comings as a center. Young is a lesser version of Shawn Marion defensively and a far worse rebounder. Speights is a worse defender than Stoudemire.
Philadelphia needs to solve their logjam at power forward. Not add to it.
Marreese Speights is a low priced young player who is an explosive offensive player and a talented rebounder. He is their best chance to create a high quality asset and a long term power forward. Speights has a lot more value as a player/prospect than a trade asset which makes him a poor player to move.
Thaddeus Young has the best trade value of the bench (very good trade value) and trading him allows the team to fix other holes on their roster while creating the opening that Speights requires. This is a good option for the Sixers and one they should strongly consider.
Elton Brand’s contract is too poor to move. It may be worth giving up a highly valued asset to move him. But in all likelihood the Sixers are stuck with him and order to get some type of value from the money they’re paying him … Philadelphia needs to give him 24-28 minutes a night as the team’s sixth man.
Amare Stoudemire is the best big man of the bunch but he’s going to command a massive contract in the near future. Philadelphia can’t afford another large contract without it moving them close to Contender status and this clearly does not do that. Too much money, better of to build around the low priced Speights who offers a large proportion of Amare’s scoring production + better rebounding.
If Phily wants an expiring contract, then they should focus on the expiring part and ignore the level of talent coming back in the trade. No point overpaying for someone you’re going to part ways with in two and a half months time.
I wouldn’t do this trade if I was either team.